
The Quixtar believers are preparing to attend the mid-year rallies. Distributors will be paying their own way to attend what the motivational kingpins hope will be a very profitable event (at least for them). New recruits will find this event possibly exciting as well as expensive. Rallies put high pressure on new distributors to make commitments to purchase all the books, CDs and propaganda the new distributor will require to grow in his/her business. All the inside information and ideas expressed by motivational speakers and writers will be offered. All will be encouraged to automatically buy these items. I have read some of the old classic books and heard a few of the tapes. Nothing really new here. Many other MLM companies beside Quixtar make use of these old standards.
On stage will be basically the same old same old, but in the crowd there will be the many new hopeful people who have believed the recruiter's spiel. The 5 year plan to top level success is what? Less than 5 years away now. Hearing the successful beautiful people on stage and seeing their enthusiastic faces may be just what is needed for people to dig out that Visa or Mastercard and just say charge it. What isn't so evident is the deceit behind the smiles.
Diamond distributor smiles may disguise disillusionment in the business. Diamond distributors come and go in Amway. Nothing new here. Current distributors are taught to believe that success in Quixtar will bring lifetime will-able residual income. What surprises me is that they cling to these ideas in the face of evidence to the contrary. Quiting the business is a major deal, a no-no of the highest magnitude. Quiting makes one an incredible loser for the rest of one's life if the brainwashing that upline mentors do is to be believed. That being said, in recent times many pin level successes in Quixtar have quit, left, joined other businesses or returned to work in their former occupations. Where is the long term security in that? I ask, why do seasoned distributors still believe some of the more obvious deceits promoted by the kingpin dream weavers in the business?
There is a lot of talk about “change” this year. Change by Quixtar and change by politicians. As in politics talk about change many times fizzles out. What real changes has Amway instituted? Not the one change that some disgruntled IBOs have called for: Dismantling of the kingpin distributor system. Many have called for the defrocking of these organizations and the people who operate the enthusiasm machine. The motivational organizations sponsor most of the fraud that AmQuix has become. These handful of greedy distributors sit on their pile of money and enable Amway to continue selling their bag of unremarkable overpriced goods. Here is what could be done; the control of content and sale of tools should be taken over by the company exclusively. A fair distribution of product commissions as well as a fair redistribution of tool profits could then be made to all achievers in the business. In other words, more money for more people, not more money for just the very few. Gone will be the pin level disputes about tool breaks (discounts) and the falling out of people who have worked so hard to create the down-line volume of business that once enriched kingpin distributors selling the dream that never could come true. The current shell game that is currently being played with the tool treasure where only a handful win will be gone. Folks receiving a fair distribution will not have to return to working jobs, and folks who make the incredible sacrifices to build a downline business will really be rewarded instead of facing their current dismal future.
In Amway, the “fake it until you make it” becomes “fake is even after you make it”! Isn't this really the situation that exists on stage at Quixtar rallies? Talk about buying islands, and countries and the like is merely choreographed deceit by people who many times are not what they represent themselves to be.
Quixtar Cult Intervention urge people not involved in Amway/Quixtar to remain that way. For those locked into the grips of the motivational cults, quiting is really winning. You can cut your losses and use your time and efforts for something more fruitful. For those that stay, there may be hope that the real changes I've described in today's post might come true. I will not be holding my breath about it and neither should you.
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I'm not a huge supporter of Amway running the tool business, but I am a big believer in tool profit transparency. I doubt the current level of tool profit (and the associated prices) would stay as high as they are today if there were transparency. Neither the IBO's, Amway, or the FTC would stand for that.
The rallies could be run such that all IBO's in an area, regardless of LOS, could attend a function in their area, dramatically reducing overhead costs. Not only should the ticket prices be much lower, but there would be far less spent on hotels, airlines, gas, rental cars, etc., to feed the net loss machine this business is for those who follow the uplines' directions.
I'm not a huge supporter of Amway running the tool business, but I am a big believer in tool profit transparency. I doubt the current level of tool profit (and the associated prices) would stay as high as they are today if there were transparency. Neither the IBO's, Amway, or the FTC would stand for that.
The rallies could be run such that all IBO's in an area, regardless of LOS, could attend a function in their area, dramatically reducing overhead costs. Not only should the ticket prices be much lower, but there would be far less spent on hotels, airlines, gas, rental cars, etc., to feed the net loss machine this business is for those who follow the uplines' directions.
I remember being all fired up at these conferences. Years later, I see the truth behind the smiling faces and motivational stories.
Ever wonder why you write out your checks to Cash or you have to enter your sponsors name, upline Platinum's name, and your upline Diamond's name on your order forms? It's certainly not because they want to create this lovely social graph to see how everyone's related. It's to more effectively redistribute your tool money to right person's pockets.
Sandcastles.
To any IBO planning to go to a rally this year, think about this word when you hear that uplifting story of struggle and triumph. What you're hearing is not the Diamond Dream Story, it's the Diamond Sandcastle Story. When they say that they want to see you on the beaches of the world, they're saying that they want you to be the sand that builds up and replenishes their sandcastles.
That's right, you're just sand to them.
I've been out of the business for many years now, and I've returned to the debate to help someone I know get out. I want to give him the information that I wish I received the day I saw the plan.
I have since learned that in my former AMO, some of the Diamonds have gone back to regular jobs, others are no longer on the speaking circuit, and some have even gotten divorced. That doesn't quite sound like a lifetime will-able, residual income business to me!
QCI and other websites have been extremely helpful, and I want to say thank you for providing these great resources. I hope that in helping my friend make a more informed decision about his future, that I will find some measure of redemption for myself. I wasted two and a half years of my life building someone else's sandcastle.
For IBOs who have been around for a year or soo, just look at the stage at functions. Same old speakers with a different audience.
If the system worked, there should be new speakers all the time.
The odds of achieving a diamond level pin is staggering. You might be better off buying lottery tickets to obtain wealth.
amthrax,
I would be interested in seeing the names of the Diamonds back at their jobs, divorced, etc. Care to share?
But your bottom line is correct, it's all about the tool scam, as Orrin admitted last week when he said 4-5 times more is made on tool by the Emeralds and above.
Have you complained to the FTC?
joecool, have you complained to the FTC?
QIAC,
By the way, welcome back from the qblog "discussion." All you have to do is ask about the tool scam, and you'll tie them up in knots and expose the other posters there for the phonies that they are.
Just ask them for input on Orrin's admission about 4-5 times the Quixtar income coming from tools.
Tex - I'm posting more details about my former AMO on QBlog's forum. Are you still banned from that message board?
Amthrax...
Love your post. Would you care if I made it a main posting on the blog?
Tex... Sorry my friend. I have been spending too much time away and my own blog has been suffering. I will keep your ideas in mind. Maybe I will just post them in your stead. I figure the axe is about the drop on me over on IBOFB's blog. That mask her shows must be an executioner's mask. He gives you the axe.
Joecool...
I suppose the newbies will not realize that. These functions serve to keep the enthusiasm for the scam at the highest possible levels. Distributors must get uneasy feelings while sitting in the audience. Most people aren't as gullible as one might believe. But then again, doubters are shored up. Maybe that is why they are urged to go.
Tex....
I have a post where I list the number of ex pins that have quit and or gone back to working other jobs. Over on Larsen's site there are names. The list is well over a year old so there are probably many more now in the post IBO Rebellion era.
amthrax,
I'm "banned" from posting, but I can read the posts.
Have you complained to the FTC?
I've seen the Larsen list, I was curious about the more recent list amthrax has.
QCI - feel free to make it a main post.
Folks....
I am going to be away from my command post here at QCI for a little while. I've got mowing of my palatial estate to take care of. I've got to go show the plan. Not. hehehe. I can do more worthwhile things (like have a life).
QIAC,
Enjoy yourself, but I doubt it will be as much fun (or rewarding) as shutting down a scam.
amthrax,
Regarding your question with your friend on qblog, I would show him Orrin's post that his Emeralds made 4-5X on tools than Quixtar.
Tell him Orrin's tool prices were about the same as the other groups, and there is plenty of others saying similar things on the internet, in court cases, etc.
Then ask him if he wants to involve himself in a tool scam.
Then tell him to file a complaint to the FTC. Hopefully, you can tell him you have already done that.
Tex - I'm not at the point right now where I want to draft up a letter to the FTC with my real identity. One day, perhaps.
As for my list, I know that in INA, Vanni got divorced and remarried (qualified as a Diamond according to Achieve May 2008). Carbonaro as of a few years ago was selling something like windows or real estate - not sure if he's still active.
amthrax,
I appreciate your concern, as this may be why others have not submitted complaints, and don't say it.
Very little of your personal information is required.
If this is your concern, try to submit your complaint with limited personal information, such as only your last name and state you live in.
However, the more personal information you submit, the more the FTC will be able to follow up on your complaint.
Just keep in mind your input may help put an end to the tool scam.
I just looked at the FTC site, there is a new form that is different than the one I used just a couple of months ago, and appears to be very flexible.
I have filed a complaint with the FTC as have many others.
Unfortunately, I do not have the "pull" to request a new investigation.
joecool, none of us have the pull, that's why we need the high numbers of folks calling in. I hope you promote this on your blog, qblog, etc.
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