Deep Throat BIG HAT Blows the Covers Off of Amway Kingpins! THE WOE OF THE TOOL KINGPINS

Big Hat, an IBO in good standing and a really stand up guy has been known to open up a can of whoop bottom from time to time. I believe the following expose on the TOOL KINGPINS sums up the story of the Turkey Buzzard Vulture that these systems are. The following words are not mine, are those of the author. I believe this man's expose to be a classic. Who ever this bold man is, Big Hat, you sure know how to open one big can of Whoop Booty. QCI.


THE WOE OF THE TOOL KINGPINS:
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(What follows are the words of Big Hat)

Okay, let's get down to business. First of all, my level of frustration is based on a three year saga that started when I was told by my former upline Diamond, Bruce Anderson, on his blog (which no longer is available, but the conversation can be found here (I am "Curious" on that blog, and I believe it is quite evident Bruce was NOT interested in sharing this information, even though he had already been terminated over a tool issue):

http://www.webraw.com/quixtar/forum/viewtopic.php?p=40958&highlight=bruce+anderson#40958
(Here)

Note there is a second person, bobztwin, who tried to step in and "protect" Bruce, but they both eventually admitted they made twice as much from tools than Quixtar. This is even more significant in that Bruce told me on the telephone he was qualified as a Diamond for only for the first year or two, and made much less Quixtar profit for most of the years he wore the Diamond pin (which is typical, making the tool money even more significant part of the problem). I have a "Profiles of Success" book that includes Bruce with his large home on the Florida intercoastal waterway, airplane, ocean going racing boat, large motorcoach (not a smaller motorhome), restored antique car, motorcycle, other cars, etc. He was admittedly not doing well financially prior to this business, as he flew a helicopter and Wendy, his wife, was a social worker."

Rich DeVos made a series of recordings in the '70's and '80's entitled "Directly Speaking." You can read one of the recordings and listen to the other here:

http://www.amquix.info/amway_directly_speaking.html
(Here)

There are a number of issues that are discussed, most of which were fixed, so feel free to ignore them and pay attention to the tool profit portions. Anyone who is familiar with Rich DeVos' voice will immediately recognize this as his voice. The site these recordings came from is well known, and if it were in error, I am quite sure would have been shut down by now. If Rich was inaccurate with these statements, I am quite sure the company would have withdrawn these statements, and never has. Bruce Anderson told me on the telephone he was "ordered" to take and destroy any "Directly Speaking" tape he may come across."

"There have been various lawsuits/threats of lawsuits over the years regarding relatively minor issues, such as whether Jody Victor's first wife was painted over in a portrait at Quixtar headquarters in Ada, MI:"

http://www.webraw.com/quixtar/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2684&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=jody+victor&start=45
(Here)

(I can no longer find the original information that was available on the IBOAI site, but the post on Thu May 04, 2006 3:24 am refers to the apology from Scott Larsen that was one of the conditions for Jody dropping the lawsuit); or another one regarding the details of qualifications:

http://www.webraw.com/quixtar/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2684&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=jody+victor&start=45
(Here)

see post Tue Apr 18, 2006 12:52 am"

"As I and others have referred to the upline as "lying cowardly "kingpins" or "tool scammers" and similar other terms, thousands of times on the very same blog, as well as other blogs, why has the upline NOT, even once, denied our charges? This is one of the most talked about issues on a variety of popular blogs that prospects can easily find, so why haven't the upline simply opened their books and shown we are in error, let alone file a lawsuit over these matters?"

"Here's another statement from a former Diamond, Don Lorencz:

http://web.archive.org/web/20051124194000/http://donjlorencz.texerta.com/ "
(Here)
A group, commonly known for one of the Emeralds involved, Joe Morrison, tried to split from their upline tool system, and got put out of business by the upline threatening anyone who speaks for the Morrison group to be "uninvited" to any speaking opportunities with Yager. Why would all of these IBO's give up their entire business if the tools were not THE major source of profits? The lawsuits themselves indicate most of the profit for the higher pins is from tools. If incorrect, I believe the plaintiffs could be charged with a variety of legal violations:

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Amway/AUS/morrison.htm
(Here)
Here's another one, from a former Direct Distributor (now known as Platinum):

(http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Amway/AUS/hayden.htm
(here)
And another, from former Double Diamond Brig Hart:

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Amway/AUS/hart.htm
(Here)
And another, from former Crown Ken Stewart:

http://www.mlmsurvivor.com/stewart_v_gooch_comm.htm
(Here)

Here's the you tube video from Andy Andrews, while he was still an active IBO:

http://video.filestube.com/video,d7f07a3ad21d5f0903e9.html
(Here)

One more, from former Diamond Bo Short (the transcript and video links from the 2004 Dateline show are below):

http://web.archive.org/web/20060207071939/msnbc.msn.com/id/4375477/
(Here)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-215989802739458876
(Here)

I don't care about all the emotional, motivational mumbo jumbo, just the bare tool scam facts.

Here's Orrin Woodward, former Executive Diamond, on his very own blog recently:

http://orrinwoodward.blogharbor.com/blog/_archives/2008/7/2/3773065.html
(Here)

#comments see post Thu 03 Jul 2008 12:51 AM EDT

Not to mention an obviously perplexed Michigan judge, who was incredulous (it's called perjury, but as this information wasn't the focus of the lawsuit and would be difficult to prove, they'll probably let it go) when Mr. Dickie, the CEO of Orrin's tool company couldn't even estimate how much Orrin and the other high level "leaders" made via the tools:

http://www.freetheibo.com/pdfs/November-Judge-Sullivan-Opinion-Order-Quixtar-v-Woodward-not-contempt.pdf
(Here)
Here's the testimony, where Mr. Dickie denied having a clue how much was made via tools:

http://freetheiboblog.typepad.com/quixtar/files/october_17_court_transcripts.pdf
(Here)

The developments in the UK, where the judge ruled the "voluntary" action taken by Amway in May 2007 to shut down all tool sales should be lifted, but ONLY if there is ZERO tool profit. I am not in favor of zero tool profit, as I believe in free enterprise, capitalism, and the profit motive. However, these terms have NOTHING to do with the upline referring to their IBO's as "teammates", "business partners", and other similar terms, then lying (by omission) about making most of their money via the tools.

I can probably come up with others, but these are adequate to prove my position.

You offered very little willingness to discuss the issue of the appropriateness of these facts , I hope you now see this is NOT hypothetical, it is very real. You also refused to discuss whether this behavior would be considered unethical if true, which I also consider VERY unproductive.

Very real people, on the order of millions over the past few decades, have been ripped off for probably 10's of billions of dollars.

I can probably come up with others, but these are adequate to prove my position.

NONE of these are mere "blog statements", these court cases are ALL from former IBO's who were cut out of their tool scam profits for one reason or another, and ended up kicked out of the business. If the tool profits were minor, doesn't it make sense they wouldn't make these statements and not worry about a little bit less money from the tools?

(End of Expose submitted to QCI by Big Hat, deepthroat.)
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Quixtar Cult Intervention's Review of the Big Hat expose on Kingpin Corruption:

These are hardly new developments but your presentation of the concise information is stimulating reading. I've seen the sign outside of the Tex establishment. Makes one proud to be a Texan I guess. Tex fills some pretty big kick ass boots. I just like the little feller as he wonders about through cyberspace waging what one Amway Internet proponent Claims is an Internet war. My Dear friends, if it were a war as this INSIDER says, the WAR would be over. With all the developments along the lines of corruption in the BUSINESS CULT I may have to agree with that critter of a pundant on the (Un)Truth About (Corruption) Amway Merry Go Round, that there is a war of ideas and thought floating about, and Amway has a lot to answer up to. They act as if they were deaf. These pundits of lies and deceit that the Business Cult furthers the corruption and keeps it marching forward into the wide abyss that the Amway Business has sunken to. These business cults of deceit, with kingpins (href="http://quixtarisacultintervention.blogspot.com/2008/03/do-you-know-who-your-are-in-business.html">described as mafiosi operators) is enough to make the new and improved AMWAY GLOBULE more of the same "Lying, Cowardly Kingpins" that crusader Tex has described. The Reputation Rebuilding is just a continuing lie. These folks see the handwriting on the wall of their pyramid, yes right on the stones. They want to push the new and improved version of their new incarnation of a scam onto a gullible public. Tex has described their methods of operation and Amthrax is describing in detail the inner workings of these tools and what is being revealed is not something the liars want their own duped Simple Simons to believe. This Cult of Deception is walking lock step into the future dishing out the same lies and deceit it has been using since Rich and Jay were a pup.

Tex, you make me laugh. You said that the upline comes down and rubs the downline's tummies. It about cracked me up.

Okay, let me get down to business, like Big Hat said. (Isn't that great writing by the way?) Big Hat, you redeemed yourself. You must be going to the Quixtar Is A Cult Academy of Journalism. Hey, I was knocked out when I first read your words. I thought, Oh my, what we have here is a classic. You knocked me out!

I considered and thought and waited until this moment to reveal to the world your expose on Amway LCKs. Seems like we have gotten some traffic to and through our Fraud Files expose that Tracy Coenen has featured. And now with you concise argument may take the case of the Kingpins Tool Scam to readers of the world.

All I've got to do is say Tex! and CHOMP!!!!!! Just like my pup Taz, the critter hunter down and killer dog you can ever imagine. I'll sick him on those evil Quixtar business cult vampire critters that these sometime reptilian like slimy rascals can be. Taz gets their skulls in his mouth and CRUNCH!!!!!!!!!

Quixtar Cult Intervention is your one stop and shop gold mine of information about the business cult and their dirty little secrets. All are welcome here. Actually the IBO that finds this page has a chance of escaping the cult. There is a lot of brainwashing here with these people. You can believe that this is not a cult, but the over whelming evidence seem to prove the other argument. If you have a friend or relative that is considering a Amway anything, please point that person to my blog by clicking the envelope below. Just think, the person you could be helping is (yourself).

BREAKING NEWS

Dirty Little Secrets of their Little Quixtar Cult is being featured on Fraud Files and I want to thank Tracy Coenen for her help in revealing the underbelly of MLM fraud. Tex: CHOMP!

Tex, if your expose gets the kind of attention that Dirty Little Secrects of their Little Quixtar Cult has gotten the IBO sheep have got to be hearing something, the Wolf's howl or the words of the shepherd.